Go To 11
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #61
Greg said:
You're a legend, thanks for doing this!
Gee thanks Greg! Happy to help those who are still undecided.
jaketanner
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #62
Go To 11 said:
Hey everyone!
Here’s an hour long walkthrough of Nashville Scoring Strings. I compare it to Spitfire Chamber and Symphonic Strings, and Cinematic Studio Strings. I play with mic positions and try my reverb setup to give it a larger sound; I try regular patches and combinations of A and B patches; and I try and get through all of the articulations once, across the various sections. I even tried to get that flautando sound with a fun combo towards the end…
This is my first time doing a real-time stream, and I’m not a keyboard player so it’s basic scales (!), but it should give you a really good sense of how the library sounds if you’re on the fence or just curious to hear more. I can follow up to this with another one, if there’s anything else you’d like to see and hear. Cheers!
I have the library, and by the looks of your KEY strokes, you are not connecting, overlapping the notes enough to trigger the proper legato so it sounds a bit disconnected. You have to overlap the notes.
Go To 11
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #63
jaketanner said:
I have the library, and by the looks of your KEY strokes, you are not connecting, overlapping the notes enough to trigger the proper legato so it sounds a bit disconnected. You have to overlap the notes.
I'm pretty sure I performed all the legatos with overlapped notes. I'm not sure why you put KEY in caps - what does that mean? Also, either the notes overlap or they don't. There's no half legato transition. I'm confused by your comments sorry. Please clarify, thanks!
jaketanner
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #64
Go To 11 said:
I'm pretty sure I performed all the legatos with overlapped notes. I'm not sure why you put KEY in caps - what does that mean? Also, either the notes overlap or they don't. There's no half legato transition. I'm confused by your comments sorry. Please clarify, thanks!
The KEY was because you have the computer keys up so referring to those...so you are not using a controller to play them in? And from the looks of the virtual Kontakt keys, they were not overlapping...but that's how it looked and sounded for a few of the notes...not all.
Go To 11
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #65
jaketanner said:
The KEY was because you have the computer keys up so referring to those...so you are not using a controller to play them in? And from the looks of the virtual Kontakt keys, they were not overlapping...but that's how it looked and sounded for a few of the notes...not all.
I see. I was playing in 95% with my NI keyboard, I just brought up the computer keyboard to find the velocity where harsher attacks come in, for instance. But as you'll see in other parts of the video where I'm playing in CSS, every legato is a legato. No double long notes. Sure I might have missed one or two, but it didn't feel like it. And if I did, good ears!
jaketanner
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #66
Go To 11 said:
I see. I was playing in 95% with my NI keyboard, I just brought up the computer keyboard to find the velocity where harsher attacks come in, for instance. But as you'll see in other parts of the video where I'm playing in CSS, every legato is a legato. No double long notes. Sure I might have missed one or two, but it didn't feel like it. And if I did, good ears!
For me it was literally in the beginning. Haven’t seen the whole video with css as I have the libraries and didn’t need to, but was curious. I love the library so far. How do you like it?
Go To 11
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #67
jaketanner said:
For me it was literally in the beginning. Haven’t seen the whole video with css as I have the libraries and didn’t need to, but was curious. I love the library so far. How do you like it?
Cool cool. I'm really enjoying it man! It's clear and detailed and I'm getting a brighter sound, on a dry stage, that I can adapt as I please. I have some reservations with the performance sampled shorts so far, in that the first note in a sequence sounds like it has the echo of a previous note (from the performance). The issue being that there is no previous note when you first play, so you get that reverse snare sound that feels sucky and odd. The fix for this is clear to me, we need to have a stronger cutoff for the first note played, and then a script that switches back to the repetition samples. That said, I like it and I'm quite happy with the simplified articulations (but also excited to hear there is an expansion along the way). I plan to use patches like flautando from the Spitfire Studio Strings to fill in the gaps for now. Portamento would have been nice, but I also rarely actually hear that in real recordings, so I don't mind missing it. It definitely fulfils the dry stage string library dreams I've always had, and it should blend well with things like CSB and some drier woodwinds I have, and NI percussion (which is in a really tight stage). That'll be my new setup, and I am really stoked about it.
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hayvel
Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #68
I am really impressed by the short notes in the walkthrough. Very organic and believable, the performance sampling approach just works here. I think this is a solid package. There may not be a huge amount of articulations but the bases are covered and the overall sound, to my ears, is gorgeous. Love the legatos, too.
If I had not just spent my budget on a different string library before the announcement, I would have a hard time making a decision.... which to get first
jaketanner
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #69
Go To 11 said:
Cool cool. I'm really enjoying it man! It's clear and detailed and I'm getting a brighter sound, on a dry stage, that I can adapt as I please. I have some reservations with the performance sampled shorts so far, in that the first note in a sequence sounds like it has the echo of a previous note (from the performance). The issue being that there is no previous note when you first play, so you get that reverse snare sound that feels sucky and odd. The fix for this is clear to me, we need to have a stronger cutoff for the first note played, and then a script that switches back to the repetition samples. That said, I like it and I'm quite happy with the simplified articulations (but also excited to hear there is an expansion along the way). I plan to use patches like flautando from the Spitfire Studio Strings to fill in the gaps for now. Portamento would have been nice, but I also rarely actually hear that in real recordings, so I don't mind missing it. It definitely fulfils the dry stage string library dreams I've always had, and it should blend well with things like CSB and some drier woodwinds I have, and NI percussion (which is in a really tight stage). That'll be my new setup, and I am really stoked about it.
I hear the same issue with the shorts. Much more prevalent with violins than cellos. I also like the cello Marcato patch for shorts...doesn’t work with violins but it seems to for cello. There is also a different delay between the marcato patch and the spiccato patches.
I posted a few tips here yesterday with using the B patches and the dirty patches. I love it so far also. And blends seamlessly with BBC strings.
Go To 11
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- Nov 5, 2020
- #70
jaketanner said:
I hear the same issue with the shorts. Much more prevalent with violins than cellos. I also like the cello Marcato patch for shorts...doesn’t work with violins but it seems to for cello. There is also a different delay between the marcato patch and the spiccato patches.
I posted a few tips here yesterday with using the B patches and the dirty patches. I love it so far also. And blends seamlessly with BBC strings.
I saw those tips, thanks! What are you doing for Reverb to match the Maida Vale room?
- Nov 5, 2020
- #71
Go To 11 said:
I saw those tips, thanks! What are you doing for Reverb to match the Maida Vale room?
I didn't feel the need to match the sound at all...I had Reverberate 3 on a random setting for testing. What I will do though is create a close simulation patch with Cinematic Rooms Pro for the VSL winds and brass solo instruments I got to add to BBC...they are bone dry, so will be creating a similar space for them first...then I'll pass them all through a master reverb.
jadedsean
Senior Member
- Nov 5, 2020
- #72
Can anyone here that owns NSS test the mics out. I have routed the mics routed out to separate outputs and keep getting dropouts, can anyone confirm this?
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Audio Ollie
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- Nov 5, 2020
- #73
Composer Ramin Djawadi reached out to us to share his first impressions of Nashville Scoring Strings!
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Audio Ollie
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- Dec 1, 2020
- #74
jaketanner
Senior Member
- Dec 1, 2020
- #75
@Audio Ollie ...I noticed in the violins there is a wonkiness to them in the vibrato that doesn't exist in the other strings, and a little less in the B strings, but could be due to the processing involved. Any plans to remedy this? Mostly in the lower mid range...doesn't sound all that great with certain slow passages...Thanks. Look forward to more tweaks and updates.
jadedsean
Senior Member
- Dec 1, 2020
- #76
Audio Ollie said:
I am also waiting for a response from you guys i put in two weeks ago about routing the mics, i see very high disc usage and i know i am not the only one. It would be nice to get some sort of feedback.
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Audio Ollie
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- Dec 8, 2020
- #77
jadedsean said:
I am also waiting for a response from you guys i put in two weeks ago about routing the mics, i see very high disc usage and i know i am not the only one. It would be nice to get some sort of feedback.
We finally found the bug! If you click the wrench and remove or bypass the convolution reverb in the FX inserts, the disk spikes will go away. We'll be putting out an update in the coming days with new patches.
Thanks,
Ollie
jaketanner
Senior Member
- Dec 8, 2020
- #78
Audio Ollie said:
We finally found the bug! If you click the wrench and remove or bypass the convolution reverb in the FX inserts, the disk spikes will go away. We'll be putting out an update in the coming days with new patches.
Thanks,
Ollie
There is convolution added to the strings? It’s not the natural space?
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Audio Ollie
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- Dec 8, 2020
- #79
jaketanner said:
There is convolution added to the strings? It’s not the natural space?
No, we were originally going to include a convo reverb but didn't due to the licensing issue. Although it's active on the inserts, it's being bypassed by script. You don't hear any convolution in the library out of the box.
jaketanner
Senior Member
- Dec 8, 2020
- #80
Audio Ollie said:
No, we were originally going to include a convo reverb but didn't due to the licensing issue. Although it's active on the inserts, it's being bypassed by script. You don't hear any convolution in the library out of the box.
I see, it’s dormant but taking up ram in the background. Is this for everyone?
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