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versko19
New Member
- May 7, 2021
- #41
Toecutter said:
Beautiful, thanks! Did you use the sordino patches? I like the detaché sound here too! How much control you have over transitions? Can I influence the type of legato I hear?
Thanks! Yes, to the "faux sordino" patches which work really well despite being emulated. Unfortunately there really isn't any control over the type of legato. It just does what it will do. But, the crossfades are really great, and do give you a lot of flexibility in terms of how to play a phrase from an expressive point of view. There's also no vibrato control, but I frankly don't mind, and just treat it like the players deciding for me.
It's a very simplified library in some ways with a limited amount of knobs to turn, but on the other hand, it does have its quirks like the negative delay settings, which I only found through their technical video. However, I very much enjoy playing in lines since it's easy to just flow with the music, and not worry about going back to fine tune "vibrato", "legato speed", etc.
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Thread starter
- May 12, 2021
- #42
Batrawi said:
if that's the case, then still -to my ears- the bowed legatos are definitely more dominant all the time unless maybe when a wide interval is played
Yes, I'm having the same impression after watching a lot of reviews. You can clearly hear the bow changes here 1:47
I'm looping this cool little phrase and comparing it to my libraries... I like how immediate and pronounced the transitions are in NMS but I think Im going to miss having the option of fingered legatos or at least some sort of control over it. Maybe that's what the expansion is going to offer? If only @Audio Ollie could chime in and let us know.
X-Bassist
Senior Member
- May 12, 2021
- #43
FireGS said:
They partnered on NSS. Literally.
And now they're not partnered - with extreme prejudice. Dunno why. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The same reason you rarely see two film directors working together (unless they are brothers or best friends since youth). I’m sure they started as admirers of each other but many creative types (myself included) have very particular ways they want things to sound and what methods they choose to get there.
When two get together and have just the slightest disagreement in what they feel is a essential need (a certain sound, phrase, a way the players perform through how the resulting instrument plays) it sours the relationship and their feelings about the project. And many times both people feel like they didn’t get their way, yet normally they get the last word. That’s usually when it falls apart and they go their separate ways.
For film directors it’s usually during the script stage or during filming, fairly early on. For these two it could have been during the recordings, or just after, when they realized they each wanted it to go in a different direction.
Jasper is after all a “all in one patch” kind of guy, where Oliver seems to be more of a “one articulation per patch” kind of guy... no? That’s more than enough of a rift cause problems... imagine a bow change or legato disagreement?
Ironically if they both go off and work on a lot more difficult projects with even more difficult people (try a Hollywood producer!) then they will come back years later and say to one another “that was a pretty cool, laid back project we did together... we should do it again!... after I clear my current plate of projects....” “Yes, definitely!”... Then it never happens.
Oh wait, I’m sorry, that last bit is probably just in Hollywood.
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Land of Missing Parts
Grumpy Monkey
- May 12, 2021
- #44
It's certainly possible that the Vista sale is counterprogramming in response to the NSS sale.
RMH
Active Member
- May 12, 2021
- #45
Land of Missing Parts said:
It's certainly possible that the Vista sale is counterprogramming in response to the NSS sale.
Vista Only just legato. $249
NSS is includes representative articulations. $209...
How about?
It can be very different if I listen to it in detail, but I think they have similar tones.
Land of Missing Parts
Grumpy Monkey
- May 12, 2021
- #46
RMH said:
I think they have similar tones.
They sound pretty different to my ear. Different space, different legato transitions, different attitude.
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RMH
Active Member
- May 12, 2021
- #47
Land of Missing Parts said:
They sound pretty different to my ear. Different space, different legato transitions, different attitude.
If I have both instruments, I think can use them properly. Actualy I like the nss more of the two instruments. In end, Wouldn't most of we choose according to preference?
Audio Ollie
Active Member
- May 12, 2021
- #48
Toecutter said:
Yes, I'm having the same impression after watching a lot of reviews. You can clearly hear the bow changes here 1:47
I'm looping this cool little phrase and comparing it to my libraries... I like how immediate and pronounced the transitions are in NMS but I think Im going to miss having the option of fingered legatos or at least some sort of control over it. Maybe that's what the expansion is going to offer? If only @Audio Ollie could chime in and let us know.
Hey! I can't really go into too much detail on the expansions yet, as we're doing a lot of experimenting at the moment. I don't want to commit to anything so early on as things are always subject to change. I would make your decision based on what NSS currently offers.
There's only the one legato type, but it works quite well in most cases. There's not a ton of obvious portamento like slur in the transitions however, so that would be something to keep in mind.
Aside from the legato (which seems to be what most people focus on), NSS has all of the other performance based workhorse articulations. I'm obviously biased, but I think the repetition sourced shorts are really inspiring and offer something that's not available in the other awesome string libraries out there. At least not all in one package.
Let me know if you have any specific questions I can help you with.
Cheers!
Ollie
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- May 14, 2021
- #49
Audio Ollie said:
Hey! I can't really go into too much detail on the expansions yet, as we're doing a lot of experimenting at the moment. I don't want to commit to anything so early on as things are always subject to change. I would make your decision based on what NSS currently offers.
There's only the one legato type, but it works quite well in most cases. There's not a ton of obvious portamento like slur in the transitions however, so that would be something to keep in mind.
Aside from the legato (which seems to be what most people focus on), NSS has all of the other performance based workhorse articulations. I'm obviously biased, but I think the repetition sourced shorts are really inspiring and offer something that's not available in the other awesome string libraries out there. At least not all in one package.
Thanks a lot Ollie, I appreciate the transparency I'm rewatching the walkthrough and various reviews, it's very hard to ignore the amazing sound of this library! Yep the shorts are really good, another user sent me some tracks done with NSS and I was surprised with how much mileage you can get from spiccato "only".
Audio Ollie said:
Let me know if you have any specific questions I can help you with.
I have a few XD Can you share if the expansion will have recorded violins 2 or you will maintain the B patches idea? Will you keep offering the RAW samples? Same section sizes? You mentioned in the walkthrough it's larger than chamber and smaller than symphonic but what are the exact sizes?
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Jack Weaver
Senior Member
- May 14, 2021
- #50
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Aside from the legato (which seems to be what most people focus on), NSS has all of the other performance based workhorse articulations. I'm obviously biased, but I think the repetition sourced shorts are really inspiring and offer something that's not available in the other awesome string libraries out there.
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The shorts really are amazing - great for tight, modern scoring. I can’t recall any tighter shorts in all my libraries. They have great timing.
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MikeMaster
New Member
- Jul 24, 2023
- #51
Hi all,
Reviving a dead thread here, but just curious if anyone can chime in on NSS now that it's been a couple years. Not sure anything has changed in its programming or updates or anything.
There's a great sale on and one can get the entire Audio Ollie catalogue for $305 USD (includes all their libraries), but given that I already have a LOT of Cinesamples stuff, I'm not sure how much I'd get out of that money. I'm still quite a rookie anyway...maybe I should focus on getting better before I get more, eh?
Thanks for any and all help!
Petrucci
Senior Member
- Jul 24, 2023
- #52
MikeMaster said:
Hi all,
Reviving a dead thread here, but just curious if anyone can chime in on NSS now that it's been a couple years. Not sure anything has changed in its programming or updates or anything.
There's a great sale on and one can get the entire Audio Ollie catalogue for $305 USD (includes all their libraries), but given that I already have a LOT of Cinesamples stuff, I'm not sure how much I'd get out of that money. I'm still quite a rookie anyway...maybe I should focus on getting better before I get more, eh?
Thanks for any and all help!
NSS is awesome, the Legatos are very good and lyrical! But you should know yourself whether you Need it or not) This whole bundle for 305$ is a no-brainer really, I bought it last BF for 400$ lol)
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prodigalson
Senior Member
- Jul 24, 2023
- #53
getting NSS and LAMP alone for $305 is a no brainer if you can afford it, let alone the other products as well. Both amazing and one-of-a-kind sounding libraries with Quirky workflows. These aren’t libraries with fancy, super detailed, slick, flexible GUIs. But they sound great and are well programmed. I’d say they are both defined by punchy, dry(er) yet larger than life cinematic sound.
constaneum
Senior Member
- Jul 24, 2023
- #54
Petrucci said:
NSS is awesome, the Legatos are very good and lyrical! But you should know yourself whether you Need it or not) This whole bundle for 305$ is a no-brainer really, I bought it last BF for 400$ lol)
i bought it....love the sound in general. Didn't like the spic though. Legato transition sounds great but i have to say the starting note seems a bit slow build up in attack.
Petrucci
Senior Member
- Jul 25, 2023
- #55
constaneum said:
i bought it....love the sound in general. Didn't like the spic though. Legato transition sounds great but i have to say the starting note seems a bit slow build up in attack.
Yeah, might be - offset feature is your friend there..! My least favourite articulation is Marcato though cause it sounds a little out of place space-wise, too dry compared with the rest articulations.
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MikeMaster
New Member
- Jul 25, 2023
- #56
How are you finding the one-articulation-per-patch approach? I'm not sure that'd get in the way or not.
I have Cinestrings Solo, Core, and 8Dio Century for divisi so I'm not sure I need to chuck $300 at this. I also have CinePerc so not sure what new perc would do for me.
Maybe I'll get the JB Violin Essentials and become the best finger violinist on the planet!
Appreciate the input, friends, thanks.
KMA
pedestrian hack
- Jun 28, 2024
- #57
This just went on sale for $59 at Pulse:
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Jackal_King
Senior Member
- Jun 28, 2024
- #58
I would on say that's a good deal if anyone's looking for dry strings. Sadly, my issues with NSS are the legato patches not sounding smooth and periodic volume jumps on that patch. But the longs and short articulations are very good.
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twofiveone251
Member
- Jun 28, 2024
- #59
Jackal_King said:
I would on say that's a good deal if anyone's looking for dry strings. Sadly, my issues with NSS are the legato patches not sounding smooth and periodic volume jumps on that patch. But the longs and short articulations are very good.
The periodic volume jumps sure are irritating... And agree about the longs and shorts! I love the basses in NSS, layers well will LASS for some weight/darker sound. The pizzicato has a lot of weight and the tone is pleasing.
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NermerV
- Jun 29, 2024
- #60
I love the sound of NSS, it's an ideal sound I've had, but I do have to say, it's not as playable as I thought. Mind you, I got Areia (when the update dropped) by Audio Imperia a while back before getting NSS, so I was thinking it would be around the same in terms of how playable it'd be, but not as much. Not that Areia doesn't have its quirks, but I can get instant results right away and adjust if necessary. Just my experience with NSS.
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